Everyone wants an MtF but not an FtM?

[fantasterik]

This is not disrespectful at all, I promise. Nor am I being a jerk. I am just honestly curious.

Why is it that everyone wants to date/be with/sleep with/etc an MtF but not an FtM? It confuses me o__O there's just as many FtM's out there but you never hear or see people looking for one, or the second someone finds out you're a transguy they are no longer interested.

I don't get it.

Thoughts?

[(deleted)]

`well if your talking about men, they have to be attracted to me to want to date a FtM. Women I can answer for

[natkat]

`im pretty sure the interest in general isnt higher for mtf than ftm,
I got guys who been interesteed in me, as a ftm, and I also heard of (specially women) who been pretty cool about dating ftm.

I think the reason is mainly because Mtf gets more attention.
not to mention the sexthing with ------- in the ---- movies fantasys,
..

but as far (at least for my country) ftm are more how to say it,
not-so visible.. I have tried people not even knowed they existed.
like they knew mtf where trans, but didnt knew you also could be ftm..

I think thats the reason.

[alaenagirl]

`this is just my opinion, im a mtf - men are horn dogs.

where the female population are not, so the more aggressive of the two will stand out more, its up to us ladies to keep you men at bay...

but in reality - i prefer as a mtf to be with a ftm - the problem is most ftms dont seem to want us mtf's.

which is sad because the two have a lot in common and would be happy together...

but for a mtf to be with a genetic female, the female is usaully bi-sexual

and straight genetic males would --- anything, mainly if its --------.

so in my case im with a another mtf which so far seems to be working...

but listen dude - you will find the right person just dont give up...

love you hunn, Alaena

[wolframsheridan]

I like MtFs

I don't know any though...

[(deleted)]

`Maybe I can shed some light on this.

If you remove the clothing, the body and inharent faults of just being human, all your left is who you are.

By seeing this, a GM (lol genetic male) or FTM who is straight but has a open enough mind to see past the clothing the body and faults you see a MTF as a woman.

so if you apply same outline with obvious changes (stright to gay, and mtf to ftm, and woman to man) it still holds true.

I'm willing to bet give it some time (50 years maybe, given the rate that history in the U.S. on matters of ------ity it should GREATLY open up till then keep looking. Hope that minds just keep opening up)

So it just might be that right now most people ether haven't thought of the possibility or due to lack of understanding being ftm and gay is strange x2 and cant handle the thought. No disrespect intended.

Ever heard "there is no such thing as bad publicity" its true MTF and CD/MTF is in just about every other Television Series (unfortantly in these series there only found in bars "booo!".) Personally I never knew that FTM was done till a couple years ago, and didnt connect the dots for FTM gay till last year. So with little to no publicity on FTM, FTM Gay (ect. ect. ect.) its hard to make awareness when there isnt anyone there to make a good or bad voice known, so ftm kinda is unknown to the small world of U.S. (execpt Thailand but there beliefs are VASTLY different on the subject of TV/TG, i would explain the history/view/semi-reglion(?) about it but im kinda getting bored typing so much right now).

Sincerely yours, Richard

[natkat]

when I talk to strangers I often get the same kind of questions.

like here last new year.

me: "I am transexual, that mean I am a guy but biological was born a girl..."
person: "so you are a girl?"
me "no"
person "so you want to be a girl?"
me: "no"
me: "I am born a girl but I belive your mental gender is the most important, and I see myself as a guy and soon starting my threatment.. "

person: "but you got a *****"
me"yeah"
person "so you are a girl.."

=__=

(hehe I know it was a bit offtopic..) it true.. the knowlegde about ftm are small, most people dosent know what t is, and even if they think they dose they dosent...

only think I heard is; "so you got a *** and is a girl but wat a *** to become a guy", wich I think is very lame explanation. for me the whole point in being trans is, that in you mind your a guy and thats what make the dffrence, and you will still be a guy no matter if you get a ----- or not. actually there alot of ftm who never go have the lover surgery, but for me that dosent make less a man. what if a biological male got his ----- cut of in a accident? would he then have to be a girl for the rest of his life?

the tv help a little but in the long point people who take there knowlegde from tv dosent know so much.. it the "I saw a movie about a trans like you but he was straight so how can you be gay" kind of knowlegde

[(deleted)]

`lol wait wait wait you got the point but your pointing at the wrong person.

trust and belive, trying to give a reasonable expelnation is hard sometimes when giving exsamples.

And as i stated:
"If you remove the clothing, the body and inherent faults of just being human, all your left is who you are. "

covers everything you just said NatKat
keep up or just say you agree and post why.

[amya]

`Interesting post.

I would have to say if this true, then I would have to agree with another poster that it has to do with the male --- drive. On a side note Interestingly, there are few FTMs or butches interested in dating MTFs which is unfortunate for me because they are what I seek:(

[(deleted)]

`In my experience, bio females are much more accepting than bio males when it comes to FTMs...no matter if they are straight, les, or bi. I've had multiple offers from straight women, even after they knew about me being an FTM. It really sucks cause I'm gay. Only had one relationship with so called "bi" guy that turned out to be a bust. No one else seems willing after I tell them...even being post-op and having been on hormones for almost 2 years. It's strange because women are usually portrayed as being pickier or more judgmental than men, but in the world of FTM, the opposite is true.

[(deleted)]

`I've been starting to kind of notice this, I'm not really sure why and some of these posts have been really interesting.

When I was talking to my friend about this after I first started telling people I'm trans she asked about ------ity. In the end she told me I'll probably not be able to date a guy unless he was also FTM because gay guys aren'ts going to be interested in me pre-op and post-op.

.__. Wasn't the most encouraging conversation.

[natkat]

`it also happents to me.. people ALWAYS curious about my ------ety so on that why it never really been like I been in the closet, I always been the type people even if I wasnt telling where suspecting..
---------
well all the gay guys who only thinking about getting d** there pretty imposible to get, but there is gay guys with a little brain..
and not imposible on that side...

[jackkarl]

`i find that as an ftm i am doubley cursed at time. i am attracted to both men and women, and everyone in-between. yet when i express interest in a man, i am rejected because i am seen as not a real man. and then there are the ladies i am into see only that i am too much of a 'manly' woman for them. can't win either way. yet i keep trying.

[(deleted)]

`Heee, what a difference. I'm friends almost entirely only with transmen and queer or queer-friendly women here in toronto; all of them like transmen (and 99% of them are taken and having an awesome relationship! =D) but none are attracted to transwomen. =(

I think interest in both is more or less the same in both, just different genders find dates different ways. There's always tons of ads from men who look for (trans)women; while women usually only date through friendships, friends-of-friends, or from going out clubbing (again with friends). That's of course not inherently true with everyone, but seems to be more or less something that people adapt to based on how they were socialized growing up. It does give the external/internet appearance that there's more people who want MTFs if you're not networked to the right circles though.

Finding cisgay fellows who are interested in ftms (and cislesbian ladies interested in mtfs) is always really hard though. It's not impossible, I've known a couple gay cisguys who are partnered with transmen and love them to death. so to the gay bois here, keep looking, your prince charming is out there somewhere~ =)

[phatcamp]

`I am too tired to go into a long tirade about my preferences and ------ity but I do like both FTM and MTF, I'm more interested in the person rather than the label.