Why are transgender women so trashy?

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well my point was just in reference to the fact that in my experience trans women are usually very hard to speak to because they are often trashy and superficial and -------- motivated by there decisions not all but most women in general wont even speak to a guy unless he has something to offer i.e looks, money etc i speak to everyone its not about me at all but i would say that i dont judge a person by what they dress like its their life not mine . why does it matter to you how other people live their lives .

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basterdowl wrote: trans women are usually very hard to speak to because they are often trashy and superficial and -------- motivated by there decisions

And of course what you describe doesn't apply to men and there is absolutely no ------ motivation on the part of the men who want to meet trans women? Their motivations are always pure and honorable?

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basterdowl wrote: well my point was just in reference to the fact that in my experience trans women are usually very hard to speak to because they are often trashy and superficial and -------- motivated by there decisions not all but most women in general wont even speak to a guy unless he has something to offer i.e looks, money etc i speak to everyone its not about me at all but i would say that i dont judge a person by what they dress like its their life not mine . why does it matter to you how other people live their lives . Yeah it is their life, but in doing so they make my life indirectly harder because people assume, based on their limited experiences with these hoes, that every transgender women is like that. Plus, they automatically assume that every single transgender woman was born a man.

So, you like...want sympathy here? It looks like someone's been eating -------- sandwiches again. I see plenty of people play the victim and all, but this is absolutely preposterous in its entirety. You and only you suffer the consequences of your action(s) in life. You have nobody to blame but yourself.

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lol ------ sandwiches im keeping that phrase genius but i think you dont need to worry about other peoples actions the fact is no matter what lifestyle you live there will be people automatically judging you and putting you into a category i.e if your a man most of time women automatically believe that your into cars, sports, beer and all you think about is --- because most women automatically believe this its sexism really . just like women automatically are judged on their appearance i mean all women are interested in shopping , soap operas and romantic moves

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also sorry if i go on a negative rant im recently just split up with my wife and she has moved away with my daughter who i miss alot so i do have genuine reasons to be depressed about i wont talk about this again but i thought id explain my negative attitude i dont try to be an @ssh*le lol but sometimes i just get pissed of at the world and i winge lol and my coment about wondering why noone was talking to me was just me being an @ssh*le lol i know when im being one i can admit to that .

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`also ill add most guys are -------- motivated but thats pure im always looking for a woman to love and adore nothing wrong with thats my nature but im not just after --- it is a factor yes of course but theres is more than that getting to know people is one of lifes great things just to understand their perspective and beliefs aswell no one here is a nun or a monk but you shouldn't always think im trying to get some action believe it or not i actually just like to talk to people to forget about all the depressing s--- i have to deal with lol

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`Generally speaking, men and women exhibit basic characteristics that define those sexes. It isn't sexist to assume men will like sports, electronics, cars, tools and all that stuff because more often than not, it's the truth thus, it becomes a basic expectation in men, the norm. That does not mean it defines ALL men (Like I said, generally speaking) just the VAST majority of men. Just like we know, based on extensive research over the last half century, that men are more violent (They commit 95% of all violent crime in the United States), possessive, act out irrationally more often than not, are less emotional, and enjoy violent entertainment.

Whereas we are, generally speaking, more emotional, passive, nurturing, caring, compassionate, enjoy dramas, romance, are less violent, ect. This is because --- hormones cause different areas of our brains to develop in different ways. This type of neurological differences are just the way it is.. Where it gets distorted is when people *pretend* like CD's and TV's do. We are wired different and --- hormones do different things to our bodies and make us evolve in a different way than men do. That is just the biological fact of it all. Thus, for those and many other reasons, men ARE the way they are and we are the way we are. It's more biology than choice.

[alieighty]

`How do you tell if a woman is really trashy?

She brings a date to her wedding day.

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i like you natalie your very intelligent and beautiful to add to that ( just saying thats all so chill) i still dont believe any person should be treated and judged based on their --- . people should be allowed to their life however they want and shouldn't have to commit to social protocols sure your a woman but i will not automatically think you are weak or interested in stereotyped activities because ive met women who have been very strong im in raf im a gunner i know women who can run 2.5 km in 8 mins and weight lift with the rest of us and they are not lesbians very beautiful but could beat the living s--- out of any bloke so i refuse to judge a book by its cover or what the review scores are everyone is different so its important to treat everyone equally. i think its sometimes hard to chat with some people because they think they know you when really they dont.

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`People don't have to commit to these social *protocols* they generally do just being themselves. I am weak and so are women in general. Men are biologically built to be stronger than women are and more often than not are. The average man has 40% more muscle mass than the average woman just like the average man is taller than the average woman. Just another fact of life. Those women you are talking about are the exception to the norm. It is rare to find women like that in any general population.

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`Natalie, I'm going to have to agree with you here, I've seen much of the same sort of behavior in all sorts of different places, be it the real-life support groups I've gone to (I've actually stopped going to them for just this reason) The support group I've co-founded in real-life, as well as the one I co-founded online. And of course, all the dating sites and whatnot. I have reason to believe that these people are not so much trying to be their true selves, but more so some idealized male-perspective view on femininity. I'm sure you've noticed how many appear to be "caricatures" of women, generally ditzy, vain, and otherwise useless. All of this makes me wonder really, how many of these people are actually transsexuals? and how many are fetishizing. I've met more than a few TVs in my time who have slipped through the screen and have managed to get on HRT and the like. I really don't understand... If we're going through such an insane amount of grief, and pain over being our true selves... then why are so many trying to be someone they're not? That's my two cents

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`Here here!!! I agree with a lot on this thread. Natalie you speak with calm and reason and are simply reflecting on what you perceive around you and what you are passionate about. I can definitely appreciate this. I have had experiences with this site and others and I have to report the same. I've actually had people stop talking to me because I wanted to take them on a date and not just ---- -- (which blew my mind because it's a dating site!). Personally I always find the date ads with More substance to be the more attractive options (I.e plans for the future, family act.). It's hard to find a date site for trans people and admirers where cam girls or trolls havnt made home but I suppose that can be truth for all it's out there.

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gamerguy420 wrote: Personally I always find the date ads with More substance to be the more attractive options (I.e plans for the future, family act.). It's hard to find a date site for trans people and admirers where cam girls or trolls havnt made home but I suppose that can be truth for all it's out there.



In my experience I have found that you can write a detailed advert explaining interests, likes, dislikes, etc. (as far as plans for the future, who knows what is around the corner?), but however detailed and interesting to the 'right' kind of person you make your advert, you will always attract the undesirables who want an anonymous (and free) quickie. It's just the nature of things.

It almost doesn't matter what you write, because even with an explicit, well written advert, the 'h----4u' and the 'funguy' types don't READ, because they can't. All they are concerned with is instant gratification.

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mznatalie wrote:
Moral dignity is not a function of how likable we are, how talented, attractive, clean or even good we are. These people think social graces and morality does not apply to them or that they simply project their own twisted view of morality like it is accepted. It's not! Just as the pedophile justifies their actions so will these women by some *logical* means.

Just getting back on topic here. Do you not think that the statements you make above, by making a comparison between what drives a --- offender on the one hand and a persons ------ orientation and/or gender identity on the other is a dangerous and potentially harmful one to make in the same sentence, paragraph or discussion?

Words such as 'morality' and 'twisted' are pretty loaded too.

I understand you were trying to il----rate a point, but the point you make has the same kind of tone as 'moral cruisade' and 'family values' (although whose family and whose values I am at a loss to know) that the religious right-wing lobby use when condemning homosexuality for example.

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leggymature wrote: In my experience I have found that you can write a detailed advert explaining interests, likes, dislikes, etc. (as far as plans for the future, who knows what is around the corner?), but however detailed and interesting to the 'right' kind of person you make your advert, you will always attract the undesirables who want an anonymous (and free) quickie. It's just the nature of things.

It almost doesn't matter what you write, because even with an explicit, well written advert, the 'h----4u' and the 'funguy' types don't READ, because they can't. All they are concerned with is instant gratification. I think that is absurd that you claim it does not matter what a person writes on their profile because more often than not IT DOES matter because those people looking for flings tend to move on when they see the more serious profiles. Again, that does not mean some of them will not try.

It's fun to try and imagine behavior that is morally nuetral isn't it? However, there are very few examples of such type of behavior and the vast majority of behaviors a person engages in have moral content and are directly dependent on ethics and ethical choices we as human beings make. Trashy transgendered women are some that think this is what it means to be a woman. They need the validation or maybe they just like doing it for the attention. Many things that are praised or rewarded in contemporary life are unworthy of such praise. More often than not, things that are portrayed as important actually promote unethnical behavior by encouraging rash, selfish or unlawful conduct.

I think these trashy women are self-diluted, selfish and self-righteous people because their lifestyle is live in excesses and defects from moral virtues. To be a morally virtuous person, all one must do is conquer the childish tendencies toward indulgence and in immediate gratification. It's not hard to see this especially in places like this. I have no problems calling them what they are: TRASH.